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PostPosted: Sun 21 Mar - 11:57 (2010) Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi !
I made a small "theory" about the pop of these two extremely rare mobs...
 
<<*theory : A coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena.
<<A theory (from greek theorein, "contemplate, observe, examine")
<<usually designate an idea or a speculative knowledge, often based on the observance and experience, giving an ideal
representation.
<<The word "theory" is sometimes used to design something provisional.

 
====> Vyragosa and the Time-Lost Proto Drake
                                                 (Extremely rare)
...to help you getting in the most quickly time the so wanted mount that is dropped
by our friend the Time-Lost, and moreover let you sleep and eat during your intense
farming.
I explain you all this here from indications I picked up and my observances
(from my own game) and after many weeks, or months of keeping and work on my notes .
I think I can say now that she's prouved in 80% of all.

>>> Vyragosa and Time-Lost are linked
        
(married? engaged?) (I think Vyra is a female but what about the Time-Lost ?)
>>> They share the same pop timing and flights.

(Both depop after an amount of time spent poped.
It seems like if Vyragosa depoped after 30 minutes.)

Edit Shaya (05/08/09) : I followed Vyragosa twice this week during 1 hour before she was killed on
"Temple Noir".
So I'm not sure anymore if she depop or not. The hour of her down doesn't affect the cycles of 6h.

Edit Shaya (31/08/09) : After observances on PTR I established that


>>>Vyragosa and all others rare mobs never depop,
or may be after a very long time, more than 10 hours (still studied)
>>> For the TLPD, I still hold the theory of depoping after 1 to 4 phases of about 7 to 15 minutes for each.

About the TLPD, it seems that he pop during 13-15 minutes. And I noted by myself that sometime, and it
must be exceptionnal, he pop back for another phase of 13-15 minutes. (?!? But that's the truth)

Edit Shaya 12 March 2010 :
>> About the Time-Lost Proto Drake, we saw in the PTR that he doesn't
depop too. In fact we followed him on his 4 flight  during 10 hours he moved
without vanish or blink or change direction.
....................... The legend of depop isn't so believable any more........................

So if the rules are the same on PTR and officials realms, he wouldn't depop,
or he would but after a very long time that we couldn't see, because the PTR
rebooted during the observance.

NOUVEAU ET EXCLUSIF !!!!
>> La preuve en image de l'efficacité de la méthode de farm
donnée sur le forum sur ma chaîne youtube : videos de mes down 

>>le TLPD sur ses 4 trajets filmé sur PTR
>> Les films d'Angelus sur youtube

>> Les news sur les points de pop et les trajets, nouvelle carte !!
- Le post du forum
- ou Le film

Then :

>>> My theory H+6+6+6 so 6 12 18 24 etc... 6 days (H = Hour of last down)
Let's begin on a 6 hours cycle.
We have to observ the first down of the Wednesday to make our small addition.
Hour of down + 6h + 6h etc... will be the available times of the next "possible" repop.


Knowing that we have an average from my stats :
>> 28 available times of 6h.
>>An average of 10 pops in these 28.
>>8 of them are Vyragosa's pops.
>>2 of them are the TLPD's pops.
SO 18 PHASES IN WHICH NOTHING POP !
So this is "normal" that there are no pops during the 18/28 phases.



>>> BE CAREFULL !!!! :
For reasons I still don't know, there is an

>>>> unwedging of about one hour, or one hour and half (especially for TLPD)
So with regard to the available times..............
>>>> Be present a few time before and after the hour of possible pop.

>>>> The pop spots look to be aleatory.
>>>> Flights look aleatory too.

>>>> The directions :

- Journey n°1 or "red" or Ulduar done in 9 minutes by TLPD, 13 for Vyragosa,
from right to left -> in reverse of cloack turning way.

- Journey n°2 or "green" or Terrace of the Makers from left to right, cloack turning way 5mn30.
- Journey n°3 or "orange" or Frosthold from right to left -> in reverse of cloack turning way 3mn33.
- Journey n°4 or "yellow" or K3 - Brunnhildar Village from right to left -> in reverse of cloack turning way 5mn36.

>>> It seems that the realms of an same battlegroup are sharing the same cycles.
Still studying about this but we saw many pops with ~1 hour less or more on realms of a same Battlegroup
.
>>>Il semblerait que certains serveurs partagent les même cycles
de pop. Encore à l'étude mais il est certain que les pops sont simultanés sur
plusieurs serveurs + ou - 1h

Edit 1 avril 2011 : La recherche sur les corps de bataille a été négative ce n'est pas le facteur déterminant.
Mais il n'en reste pas moins que plusieurs serveurs tournent sur le même script au nombre de 4 types selon
mes observations.
Je ne pense pas que les scripts soit lancés aléatoirement car la fréquence de pop, bien que longue, est trop
régulière pour cela.
ex : Il m'est arrivé de farmer sur plusieurs serveurs et de voir pop presque simultanément Vyragosa ou Time-lost
dans la même heure et même deux protos dans les 5 minutes serveur et compte différents. Cependant les points
de pop n'étaient pas les mêmes ce qui m'a porté à penser que la boucle "point de pop" et celle "heure de pop" ne
tournaient pas sur le même rythme.

Les reset intempestifs au cours d'une même semaine brouillent parfois les pistes.

Toutes les preuves de ses observations sont sur le forum du Time-lost et ma chaîne youtube screens et films.
((http://www.youtube.com/user/Ellvanna).


I could observ a repetitive cycle of 3 weeks (Still have to be confirmed) :
One week with just a few pop of TLPD, just 1, may be 2.
One week with lots of TLPD, sometime 4 or 5 pops.
One week with two simultaneous cycles of pop, which give the think
that the timing 6+6+6 is wrong, but it still truth, but in two cycles.
Some weeks the server reboot so cycles are reinitialized.


1 to 4 TLPD per week, so an average of
>>>>2,5 TLPD downs per week.
2,5 in average, so we have an average of
>>>>130 TLPD per year !

I expect all is clear .........
Good courage and Good luck !
Your Shaya ^^
traduction by Stealth

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=>46 down du Time lost dont 2 en 1 heure "serveurs différents" - 3 en 8 jours et 2 le même jour "même serveur"
MONSTRE RARE DETECTE : Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (Elite)(31.5,66.2)
_NPCScan : Found "Proto-drake perdu dans le temps" !
Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (target)
Shaya a tué Proto-drake perdu dans le temps !

Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps....but it's dead (mouseover)

http://timelostprotodrake.ze-forum.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ellvanna
http://wowrare.webrpg.info/index.php
http://drake-de-pierre-phosphorescent.webrpg.info/index.php

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PostPosted: Sun 6 Mar - 02:36 (2011) Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello Shaya,

In your opinion, and according to your experience, what is the best position to camp for the TLPD ?  I killed Vyra yesterday at 11h49AM and today at 4:26PM at the same location (31,69). I was online 48h non-stop, that the only two times NCPScan went off. My camping position is static (I read it is not a so good idea to fly and search for the TLPD.

Merci! (I am in a US server)


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PostPosted: Sun 6 Mar - 11:55 (2011) Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello
Personally I prefer camping over the abandoned camp
only if there is few players
because you can detect the 4 fly pat at the 36.95 64.30

If there is many people, you should camp to a pop  point <<!>>
because other players will kill it for sure before you.
You have to choose by feeling the best place to camp :
1  Valkyrion
2  abandoned camp
3  Brunnildar
4  Ulduar
5  plain drifts.


Remember to check the setting of your addon regularly
and follow the instructions ICI.
For the best chance of pop you must calculate:
last down from  Vyragosa / proto +6 h + or - 1h to 1h30.
In your case: 17:49  23:49 11:49 5:49

If more than 1h30 there is a double cycle of pop.
You must calculate the other cycle and you must farm the 2.
Some people prefer to fly and search but not me because mostly
I make something else while my character camp ^^
I hope that I have response to your question
Good luck to you
Sorry for my english Sad

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=>46 down du Time lost dont 2 en 1 heure "serveurs différents" - 3 en 8 jours et 2 le même jour "même serveur"
MONSTRE RARE DETECTE : Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (Elite)(31.5,66.2)
_NPCScan : Found "Proto-drake perdu dans le temps" !
Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (target)
Shaya a tué Proto-drake perdu dans le temps !

Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps....but it's dead (mouseover)

http://timelostprotodrake.ze-forum.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ellvanna
http://wowrare.webrpg.info/index.php
http://drake-de-pierre-phosphorescent.webrpg.info/index.php

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan - 14:40 (2012) Reply with quoteBack to top

Shaya what do you mean  abandoned camp!?!?!


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PostPosted: Wed 1 Feb - 12:35 (2012) Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello yes I abandoned camp
I have got no time anymore I'm very busy
I don't speak english very well sorry
I don't know if i can help you more than with my forum
I say you good luck and thanks for your message

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=>46 down du Time lost dont 2 en 1 heure "serveurs différents" - 3 en 8 jours et 2 le même jour "même serveur"
MONSTRE RARE DETECTE : Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (Elite)(31.5,66.2)
_NPCScan : Found "Proto-drake perdu dans le temps" !
Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps (target)
Shaya a tué Proto-drake perdu dans le temps !

Rare seen: Proto-drake perdu dans le temps....but it's dead (mouseover)

http://timelostprotodrake.ze-forum.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ellvanna
http://wowrare.webrpg.info/index.php
http://drake-de-pierre-phosphorescent.webrpg.info/index.php

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